JOANNE
C.FREEZE - CEO of Candente Resource
Corp (CRC)
Press
Tribune: To start off with, could you make
a brief introduction on the creation of
Candente and the first discovery?
Mrs Freeze: When
I came here I worked for another junior
company then I started consulting for Canadian
and Peruvian companies raising funds with
Canadian investors. Fredy Huanqui and I
met working for a company called Arequipa
resources, Fredy was one of the main geologists
and on the second day we were in the field
in the Cordillera Blanca where they were
drilling one property and getting ready
to drill a second. Fredy said that there
is another mountain range that he liked
better and "I named it after my daughter
so no one would ever forget that I had to
do something with it, it was Pierina, and
13 months later Pierina was sold for US$70.
At that point Pierina was just a project,
a piece of dirt with some samples but Freddy
recognized that it was similar to Yanacocha
and other deposits, in Peru a lot of geologists
did not recognize it at the time. It is
like the gold didn't glitter, you had to
know the alteration and we went from being
a very rock prospect to selling it for 700
million dollars in 13 month so it was an
amazing exploration discovery.
Press Tribune:
Are you confident that the copper prices
will stay above 2 dollars?
Mrs Freeze: We don't
specialize in predicting copper prices,
we worry more about looking for styles of
deposits that are economic at lower prices.
Fredy and I started the company in 1997
and watched metal prices going down so we
made sure that our exploration was only
for the kind of deposits that will be economic
with those metal prices for example when
gold was close to $250 per ounce, I think
that this was in 98-99, Yanacocha gold mine
made up 25% of the world wide production
for Newmont but 75% of their profit so,
we knew that is a good kind of mine to look
for, so we were looking for that style of
mineral in some of our prospects.
We have come to
believe over the last few years that metal
(copper especially) prices will stay strong
for long enough for us to build a mine ad
get pay back on our Capital Expeditures,
$1.15 is our minimum price to be economic
and with $1.25 the payback period and overall
cash flow starts getting very attractive.
When we acquired Cañarico it was
in an auction of the government in 2002
and copper was only 67 cents a pound but
it had 11 drill holes and had certain amounts
of a mineral that is called chalcocite.
It is easy to leach the cooper from chalcocite,
so that's why we took the project, but also
if we have lots of copper and a significant
portion is in chalcocite the combination
of those two things is pretty good. We also
have a higher copper price, which is why
we want to get into production as fast as
possible,
We are carrying
out feasibility for production with just
the starting pit but we are also confident
that the larger part of the deposit will
also be economic and the mine will have
a very long life.
Press Tribune:
You have two main projects, one in Peru
and one in Mexico. Which one of these two
projects is the main driver of the company?
Mrs Freeze: Cañariaco
is the main driver right now because we
know we have already 8 billion pounds of
copper, and in a form that at least partly
is mineable and the latest studies said
that it is very economic, so that is the
more feasible project which means the engineers
do all the studies and once they finish
a bankable feasibility document then we
can take it to the bank and get our loans
and go into production.
In Mexico we are still drilling, we know
there are some interests in gold; there
is some evidence from past producers. Therefore
we could make some fantastic discoveries,
which mean the geologists are doing all
the studies. In addition we also have several
projects in Peru one is Tres Marias, which
is another silver and gold prospect.
Press Tribune:
You recently got some interesting findings
in Tres Marias; can you talk about it?
Mrs Freeze: It's
a high grade vein with two components of
formation It's actually got high grades
in veins and also it's got mineral disseminated,
you need the high grades but it also got
disseminated, with the disseminated you
get a lower grade mineral which is more
like Cañarico which has lots of mineral
spread out. In Tres Marias we have potential
for both and we have been working the area
for a while but we just put together a nice
package and bought a nice part. That will
be our third property, we just don't know
when we will start drilling but I hope within
six months or so.
Press Tribune:
Are you planning to initiate operation in
Canada or in other Latin countries?
Mrs Freeze: We are
keeping eyes open for opportunities but
our shareholders might feel we are trying
to do too much with too little money and
also we want to concentrate on the jobs
we are doing right now. So most of our money
is for Cañariaco but we do have Freddy
who is good at finding fantastic opportunities
so he would have his own budget just to
look for new things, I think he will find
something great and it would be, something
that we understand the geology very well
or the country and something that gives
us a very comfortable level, we did some
exploration in Canada because one of our
directors did find gold mines in Nevada,
but when we discovered the geology was not
similar and none of us understood the geology,
we didn't pursue it trough.
Press Tribune:
When you entered on the Lima Stock Market
last February, how did the market react?
Mrs Freeze: They
bought just under 3.7 million dollars of
our stock on the first day, so I think they
like it. They bought 8% of our float on
the market by the end of May and then when
we did a 17 million dollar financing in
June they took 6 out of the 17M, so Peruvians
now own about 14% of our stock which is
pretty good considering we started the company
in 1997 and really didn't have a Peruvian
component until February, in only 4 months
they bought up the 14 % of the company.
Press Tribune:
You said recently that the company is undervalued
compared to others juniors can you elaborate
on that?
Mrs Freeze: If you
compare the amount of copper we have in
the ground and you divide the market value
we have by the amount of copper we have
you get a ratio, a lot of these prices have
changed, but generally the comparison holds,
compared to other copper producers, their
annual production is our starting pit, we
have such amounts of copper that our starting
pit is just 12% of the deposit, we are starting
like this because it is easier to start
with a feasibility study from this starting
pit, and once we get going we can increase
our production. Just 12% of our deposit
is around the same amount of other mines
production, and they have ten times our
market value, so what we see with copper
is the closer you get to production, the
higher value you get.
Press Tribune: Why should some investors
be interested in your shares, in the competitive
Toronto´s Stock Market for example?
Mrs Freeze: Because
we have such a huge deposit and also because
the economics are so robust, we are planning
to start operation with under 200 million
dollar investment, right now the figure
is at 142 million, but even if it was at
200-250 million it would be incredible,
most companies here have to get like 1 to
2 billion to start production, so that means
a small company like ours wouldn't be able
to start it ourselves, we would definitively
need partners, right now we don't "need"
them. We are not looking for partners but
they are coming, we can wait and see if
we get a nice offer, if not we can start
ourselves. So far we don't have an offer
we would accept, otherwise you would have
heard about it.
Press Tribune:
How would you describe your work with the
community?
Mrs Freeze: I thing
we are all on the same page in this. It
is very important from the beginning of
the company that we work well with the locals,
always the first thing is to employ as many
locals as you can, so it doesn't matter
if you just needed guys to pick samples
you use as many locals as you can, better
to train them than to bring someone from
away and stay in their home with rent. As
far as Cañariaco, we employ 140 to
200 people a day working or drilling all
the time and moving supplies all over the
mountain by hand so rather than expending
on helicopters or building roads its better
for the environment, it gives jobs, plus
it is saving for our shareholders.
And in addition to give them jobs we have
several programs that again are very instrumental
in figuring out what was needed. We also
built a school, we built a medical post,
we have programs of lunches and breakfasts
for children, school supplies. And we are
also in contact with the government so that
it is well spread.
Press Tribune:
How close do you work with the public sector
to improve the social situation here?
Mrs Freeze: We are
all trying to change it, there was a big
conference here 3 weeks ago that was sponsored
by Pro Inversion and we presented the idea
of a public private associations so that
they may have some money and some skills
like doctors and nurses for the hospital
yet they don't have enough money to build
the hospital they don't even have the engineers
and also we need to build a road to the
ocean, we are going to provide electricity,
so maybe some of that money can come from
the government so some of the roads can
go to the communities from our road but
they don't have the engineers, there have
a lot of money right now but they don't
have the skills so we are trying to created
associations for that.
Also there is a foundation to help the poor,
so we gave a donation and they have contacts
in Europe, so they go to Europe to get donations
and come back to Peru and start to help
the poor. Again everybody agreed that education,
health, roads, electricity was priorities.
Press Tribune:
The costs for mining here in Peru are lower,
for example the costs per hour to hire an
engineer here are lower than in North America,
did you consider this aspect of the business
to invest in Peru?
Mrs Freeze: We are
in Peru because it is a rich country and
it is rich in mineral and in the kind of
mineral that can be mined at lower cost
because of the style of mineralization not
because of the work force. I don't mean
it is not cheaper it may be a bit cheaper,
but still workers want to be treated the
same way as everywhere in the world. What
happens in Peru, you are in a pyramid, when
you hire one person in another country,
you are hiring maybe four maybe while you
are hiring ten here, so the amount of money
spent in two hundred people employed will
maybe save some money over getting an helicopter,
but it is not that much.
We like the fact that the country likes
mining; it is a country with a mining tradition,
and a mining mind, since we mostly care
about mineralization and mine building.
Press Tribune:
There are talks about a FTA with Canada,
how do you think the FTA either with Canada
and US will boost Peru?
Mrs Freeze: I ´m
glad Peru is signing this FTA and is going
to be politically and legally recognized
that is not a banana republic, that it is
a stable country, the kind of country we
should be doing business with, that benefits
Canadians, Americans and Peruvians. Lots
of people don't understand Peru; they think
it has got pretty much the same problems
as Ecuador or Bolivia.
Press Tribune:
After 10 years of creating this company,
what are the things that give you the most
satisfaction?
Mrs Freeze: That
we found something that is very robust economically
and we are advancing, which means is going
to benefit our shareholders, but it is also
good for the community.